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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 3:32 pm    Post subject: IGB - IngameBrowser 101 Reply with quote

hi there.
this is going to be a bit messy cause i'm shoving stuff in here. will edit some clarity later

INTRODUCTION
Learn by 'view source'...that's how i did it. you can browse through the many pages i've put up into my corporation's website. i've attempted to use every combination of special feature that the IGB allows.

I did need a few resources, and learned a few things that don't work. (1) if you use a 'form' you simply won't be able to link to any other page that's not in the directory where you have the form page, even subdirectories -- for safety i keep everything in one folder. everything. (2) background images work okay, but don't make them too large. it gets ugly if you do. (3) horizontal scroll will never work; neither will javascript (4) you absolutely need a friendly server sysop that has a server with PhP capability and doesn't have too many FTP upload restrictions or usage paranoia. (5) the logserver.exe in eve's root directory is a life saver for finding ID type tags for stations. (6) Table tags work great. i used them almost on every page i had, since i wanted to match the width of my background at 580 horizontal pixels...i used that as a standard. Now, you can think up any standard or have none at all. i just thought it would be neat to have something functional that you could have your IGB at a certain width and see all the corp webpages without resizing. Not to mention the fact i still wanted to be able to perform actions using a 1024 rez. game window. (7) the IGB commands are a bit typo-prone, especially the ingame map imager (below is an example of what WORKS, it even works with multiple constellations with the 'marks', but the IGB support page has typos which make it appear multiple constellations break the comment tags)
    <IMG SRC="starmap:ids=20000373&marks=30002545" size="510">

    here's a list in a sentence. (ala. 'journal mission details')

    <A HREF="showinfo:5//30001671">Tash-Murkon Prime</A>, <A HREF="showinfo:5//30005044">Danyana</A>, <A HREF="showinfo:5//30004095">Kador Prime</A>, <A HREF="showinfo:5//30002661">Botane</A>, <A HREF="showinfo:5//30002545">Lustrevik</A>, <A HREF="showinfo:5//30005301">Tourier</A>, <A HREF="showinfo:5//30004987">Deninard</A> and <A HREF="showinfo:5//30002754">Alikara</A>.


official support page (backup)
Constellation ID tags (system tags: EVE_map_tables.xls )
Item ID tags
Agent lister
HTML examples
color codes
The awesome folks at Relicnews

DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS
Font or CSS...font or CSS...i personally went with font tags because CSS just seems bewildering.
deadguy wrote:
Let's take a really simple example, shall we?

Say you've got 50 <p> tags in your page, and you want it to look a certain way. There's two ways to go about it:

Using the FONT tag:

Now, you could add <font size="-1" color="red" face="Arial"> jsut inside of each and every one of them - and you'd have to add a closing </font> tag just before every </p>. But then you change your mind, and want them blue and bold. Well, then you'd have to replace the color="red" with color="blue" and add an opening and closing <b> tag within the font tags.

OR

Using CSS:

You could include the following in the <head> of your document.

<style type="text/css">
p {font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; color: red; }
</style>

Now, if you want to change it from red to blue and bold, you make one quick change to the second line:

p {font-family: Arial; font-size: 10px; color: blue; font-weight: bold; }

Now you know why we use it. It makes a lot of sense to use CSS - even for seemingly meaningless tasks. It's not just snobbery.


*shrug* i suppose i might want to do this, but i was afraid the IGB wouldn't like CSS or whatever...i thought it best that i went in with font tags, and kept it really simple, because i really didn't want to deal with thinking up a font style, or size or color 'standard' i just fiddled around. Besides, i still haven't a clue what font face IGB uses.


IGB/EXTERNAL REDIRECTS
official support page (it says background image doesn't work, but mine does)


so you've got a great IGB site up with lots of unique eve-online tags you found at http://bughunters.addix.net/newigb/IGB-commands.html ...problem is, when folks use an external browser (IE, mozilla, firefox, netscape, etc) they see redx's and wierd stuff all over, plus evemail and showinfo doesn't work, etc.

You then have to make two pages. one for internal and one for external browsers. unfortunately, you've still got the initial bad first impression of folks seeing your default page and having to click a link. "if you're using external browser click here" (and visa versa)

It's ugly, but it works. But, you've seen other websites that can detect this stuff, but you can't find documentation about what to stick into your html pages to make it work automatically...until now:

Assuming the IGB page is the default page you link to

JAVASCRIPT (igb won't accept it, but that's fine since it ignores the redirect and prints the html coding below it just fine)
    <script language="Javascript" type="text/Javascript">
    if(navigator.appName != null){
    window.location = "'non-igb_page.html"
    }
    </script>

    ====== YOUR COMPLETE IGB PAGE HERE - ALL OF YOUR HTML ======

    post file extension is .html (example)
Now, i'm not sure how many people disable javascript on their browsers. i'm attempting to get a PHP version of the above working, with some help, but so far no success. typo perhaps? possible, i'll try deadguy's first suggestion and combine both pages into one.

PHP (no danger of infinite loops)
    <?php
    $ua = $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'];
    if (preg_match("/\bEve\b/i",$ua)){
    ?>
    ====== YOUR COMPLETE IGB PAGE HERE - ALL OF YOUR HTML ======
    <?php
    }else{
    ?>
    ====== YOUR COMPLETE non-IGB PAGE HERE - ALL OF YOUR HTML ======
    <?php
    }
    ?>

    post file extension is .php (example)
okay, that works great! problem is i've got links to .html and the .php simply will not do...*sigh*
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering how to link to bookmarks on a page as you find in Missions?

-Cad
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

see the first italicized paragraph i posted? Not the <img> one, but the <a href> one. It's that. if you have a simple "show info" link on a page you'll get the exact same thing, just merely put in the description of the station name between the <a href> and the </a>
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.mcdee.net/eve/html.html

that's a good support site that hasn't been taken down...i'm going to webrip it just in case it does.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IGB browser detection
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generic HTML and stuff links

http://www.htmldog.com
http://www.webmonkey.com
http://www.w3schools.com
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote=jbob2000]Some hosts that I have used in the past are
www.freewebs.com
www.geocities.com
Geocities puts ads on there page and it kinda looks unprofessional. There was a way of removing the ads but they've fixed it now. If you want a free domain, check out www.dot.tk It just redirects to your page, but its nice cause they you don't have the freewebs domain in your corp name.

If your too lazy to code and everything, try Macromedia Dreamweaver or Microsoft Frontpage. They offer pretty basic templates for webpages and have coding support aswell as a 'what you see is what you get' editor. There are also TONS of sites offering pre-made templates for free and some really nice ones for a price. Gui Stuff has a few templates, but it's also got quite a few links to other template sites.

For banners, i'd definately reccomend Photoshop. It costs over $600 but there are other means of aquiring it. Any version above 6 is good, but 8 is the newest, so go with that if you can.
Once you have Photoshop, to make a banner without much effort, all you have to do is look through a good tutorial. You can search 'photoshop tutorials' on google and get a ton of pages, but some nice sites are:
Double Designs
Good-Tutorials
Spoono

All I can think of right now. You could always hire someone from the eve community to do it, but that would be pretty expensive i imagine.[/quote]
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bughunter's website is again operational. weeeeee
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BetaZ wrote:
i use PAGE BUILDER, by one of my mates i met on mIRC 3 years back.

He made it after teaching ppl to make websites and was so annoyed at the lack of simple, free, usefull website editor / creation tools on the market at the time.

Basicly when starting the program you a presented with a lay blank area where your html coding will go.
The tabs at the top are filled with buttons that are pre-programed to enter some html coding and some SSI scripts such as:

Drop Down menu scripts.
Time-Limited Image.
'Mouse Over'
'Last modified'

and so on....

The program is SO easy to use but does require you read the READ ME or help files first as with all programs.
The brilliant thing with this program is it does'nt use any all kicking all dancing XHTML or HTMLD so the ingame browser understands (just about) everything that this particlular program can do.


I've only had a few problems but its down to laziness or silly mistakes on my part, Eg: Trying to preview a page with 2 or more </HTML> tags, the prgram will freeze and you will need to force it to shut down via ALT+Ctrl+delete.

However it does detect when such things happen and will make a autosave before it shuts off.

Very simple, Very free, no bs tutorails / promo's
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.chami.com/html-kit/

Knightofni wrote:
Just remember the IGB is extremely sensitive when it comes to writing the html code. You need to close all of your tags, else it wont display anything. This also includes the </html> and </body>

And it renders tables realy slow, so use them as little as possible. CSS is not very good with it either.

Read: http://bughunters.addix.net/igbtest/IGB-commands.html
Zhang Sanfeng wrote:
the igb is total **** when it comes to html support, it doesnt adhere to any html standards that i can see! as for using editors, if they are "good" they wont work since they would use proper html/css. best way from the times ive done it is to use notepad or handcode in your editor and follow the guide by the devs for making a site for the igb, although that itself is out-of-date anyway afaik!: D






hmmmmmmm...this thread is quite detailed: http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=385296&page=1

and apparently there's a helpful devblog about ID tags here: http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=246

and here's a syntax checker: http://validator.w3.org/detailed.html (Use HTML 3.2 for closest match.)
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