[MajorFreak]

Obsolete. please see BaadF00d's post down below.
Please note that this is old old data a dredged up from months ago. (if you want current and accurate listings go here)



Aluminum cost 2500; mass 2702; profit 5.6%
Ammo cost 64300; mass 8000; profit Nada
Antimony cost 25500; mass 6684; profit 6.9%
Armor cost 22350; mass 8200; profit 6.1%
Barium cost 1600; mass 3510; profit 4.7%
Boron cost 3000; mass 2340; profit 5.8%
CPUs cost 374900; mass 650; profit Nada
Carbon cost 1900; mass 2620; profit 33.3%
Cesium cost 5000; mass 1873; profit 6.3%
Chemicals cost 8500; mass 650; profit 6.6%
Chromium cost 2950; mass 7190; profit 5.8%
Cobalt cost 3000; mass 8900; profit 5.8%
Composites cost 77525; mass 1800; profit Nada
Con.Mat.s cost 9785; mass 650; profit 9.0%
Copper cost 8025; mass 8960; profit 6.2%
Electronics cost 94760; mass 650; profit 4.4%
Erbium cost 20500; mass 8795; profit 6.8%
Explosives ??? data corruption ??? mass 4200
Fiber Optics cost 34300; mass 670; profit Nada
Fuel Cell cost 11200; mass 650; profit Nada
Gallium cost 10500; mass 5907; profit 6.7%
Germanium cost 22500; mass 5323; profit 6.8%
Gold cost 20500; mass 19320; profit 6.8%
Grain ??? data corruption??? mass 930
Grav.Comp.s cost 321500; mass 3600; profit Nada
Helium cost 2200; mass 892; profit 5.5%
Indium cost 12500; mass 7310; profit 6.7%
Iridium cost 15000; mass 22500; profit 10.3%
Iron cost 1900; mass 7860; profit 5.3%
Las.Comp.s cost 122475; mass 1300; profit Nada
Lithium cost 10500; mass 530; profit 6.7%
Lumber cost 3500; mass 90; profit 21.4%
Mach.Parts cost 19200; mass 3800; profit Nada
Magnesium cost 1750; mass 1738; profit 3.6%
Magnetics cost 157850 (Oct Core?); mass 1780; profit Nada
Manu.Foods cost 2000; mass 450; profit 32.0%
Matt.Conv.s cost 618000; mass 2400; profit 4.0%
Med.Supplies cost 2550; mass 650; profit 10.8%
Molybdenum cost 3500; mass 10220; profit 6.0%
Nitrogen cost 1815; mass 1250; profit 5.2%
Optics cost 26180; mass 1700; profit Nada
Org.Foods cost 6000; mass 450; profit 15.3%
Palladium cost 35000; mass 12020; profit 8.3%
Phosphorous cost 2500; mass 1820; profit 5.6%
Platinum cost 22000; mass 21450; profit 9.2%
Plutonium cost 30500; mass 19840; profit 6.8%
Prosthetics 411480 (hyperial?); cost mass 650; profit 2.1% LOL!
HAHAAAAAAAAAA HAHAAA ERM *ahem*

RAM cost 170800; mass 650; profit 4.3% *snicker*
RF Tran.s cost 58300; mass 710; profit Nada
Radium cost 80000; mass 5000; profit 7.0%
Rollio Nappies cost 666; mass 50; profit 50.0%
Rubber cost 2850; mass 850; profit Nada
Silicon cost 2200; mass 2329; profit 29.5%
Silver cost 13500; mass 10500; profit 6.7%
Synthetics cost 6275; mass 5400; profit Nada
Textiles cost 2800; mass 650; profit 25%
Titanium cost 10500; mass 4540; profit 6.7%
Uranium cost 50500; mass 18950; profit 6.9%
Vanadium cost 20000; mass 5800; profit 9.5%
Water cost 1500; mass 1000; profit 28.7%
Xenon cost 2600; mass 5897; profit 5.8%
Zinc HAHAHA I'M STILL NOT TELLING HAHAHAA

[MajorFreak]

STRATEGIC COMMODS [reference0043]
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I get the rationalization, sorta, for allowing depots to produce barium and silicon. (neutral station sectors are EMPTY. not even a rinky dink planet in the bitmap background; course, there's no damned planets in the background to give *IC* justification, but the fact we haven't rioted about that is just cause we know they'll code in the planets EVENTUALLY)

ALL powerplants, Engines, Lasers (including MiningLaz) & Missiles need silicon+phosphorous somewhere along their production cycle (plus, all radars need Silicon via RF transceivers via Electronics)

So this isn't a TOTAL nerf to strategic control of logistics. (if they nerf phosphorus to depots too, pvp/cargoscanning player control of the economy will be seriously hampered without massive bounties)

though one never really sees a deficiency unless there both low tow haulage AND high gear turnover (read: total war)

[Rainy13]

Goodness! So... I guess we should haul a lot of silicon and phosphorous, eh?

[MajorFreak]

i dunno. we're not into supplying a current server-wide faction war, now are we? (ie. It's a matter of scale. atm, the "criticality" of those commods is next to the important of mining common to boost station production)

you get my drift. I wish otherwise, but this ain't Homeworld2

[BaadF00d]

Hahah - I *finally* figured out what you were ranting about. Unless one has actually read (EDIT:url corrected) its a little unobvious to someone that hasnt checked a market tracker in a while - exactly what youre on about...

[ This Message was edited by: MajorFreak on 2002-05-04 01:24 ]

[timski]

Nothing better to do, so here's an update on the profit/mass/etc calculations. Data is for EU, but it should be applicable to US - from what I can tell the changes to profit margin have hardly changed since the end of US beta - the margin on certain base raw materials has gone up slightly.

On strategic commods, drifting a bit, but still interesting if you're into this sort of stuff - Building the Perfect Phoon - production dependencies for Quantar fighter equipment.

More gubbins in the pipeline on 'the economy' :eyespin: (yeah, I started playing again and discovered nobody had written anything down at all, perhaps because nobody including me fully understands, ho hum).

[BaadF00d]

Ok, the general equation for determining the "ideal" price of a commodity - or piece of equipment is:

ideal_price = base_price + bias + base_price * markup * (2000 - min(2000, stock_level) ) / 2000

given the base_price, stock level of the commodity.
The markup and bias are determined by - if Jumpgate determines the station is a producer (It makes the commodity or equipment) - consumer (uses up the commodity in production or some other process) or is neutral (neither consumes nor produces the commodity).

[BaadF00d]

This table shows the commodity index price, maxx, max price difference when shipping from producer to consumer, max price at producer, storage and consumer stations, and maximum theoretical per item %.

[MajorFreak]

[MajorFreak]

Corporate Source Material
hopefully we can get BaadF00d to do a similar price index for gear as well. *g*